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Second Version of iPod Connection in 2006 Honda Civic EX


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Up there is some of the test pieces I stuck together in order to see if I like how I’m going to mount my iPod in my car.

That photo shows a the original grey and white Belkin TuneDok from my Grand Am with most of the cupholder-supporting bits removed. The remaining vinyl bits into which the iPod holder portion threads is sandwiched between two metal plates and set on three spaces. In the final version the plates will (hopefully) be aluminum, there will be a plate on the bottom of the assembly, and that all will be bolted into the very front of the center console of my car, in front of the gear select area, set so the driver can clearly see it between the gear select lever and the accessory power outlet, and located within arm’s reach.

In the finally mounted version I will have most of the bits of a black Belkin TuneDok there instead of the dirty, old white one which is pictured. This will be mounted by running three bolts vertically through all three plates, the vinyl piece (it’ll be a darker grey), and the spacers, then bolting through the plastic tray in the front of the center console, with a washer, a lock washer, and a nut on the underside. I’m also hoping to give all metal pieces (except for maybe the screw heads) a light coating of black paint to help hide it all. If I’m thinking right, it’ll provide a nice, solid physical mounting point for my iPod.

The other half of the problem to solve is that of the electrical connections. Those were mentioned previously, and the only thing I have left to do is find +12v in the audio bus (or whatever it is called) connector on the back of the head unit (I really hope there is a full +12v here) and get access to that. Then I have to somehow safely (and without changing any factory wiring) get to the back of the in-dash Auxiliary Audio Input and get some use out of this. In this I wish to close the switch which indicates if something is hooked up to the Aux In, then run the iPod’s audio into the Left / Right / Common lines.

I think I’m also going to etch a PCB and mount it in a shielded (probably solid aluminum) box which will tie this all together. This will give me experience etching PCBs, and it’s a really simple project to start with. The box will be mounted somewhere beneath the iPod mount. There is a bracket inside the console which appears like it may be good for tying this to.

Just as when building the first version of my iPod adapter for this car, another MIDI cable will likely be sacrificed for making the connection to the Aux In. I’m not sure what I’ll do for power wiring yet. That’ll have to get figured out later. Maybe some random 18 gauge or 20 gauge or whatever I’ve got laying around the basement twisted together with some shrink tubing or tech flex over it or something. < shrug >

Oh, and completely unrelated to everything else I’ve mentioned in this post, I also updated yesterday’s LJ post which mentions Bell’s Sparkling Ale with a non-screwed-up photo. You can see that photo here if you would like.

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Lowel ego

Wow, the Lowel ego looks like exactly the kind of lighting setup I need.

Then again, I could probably make something similar for a bit less… But it at least gives me some ideas. Maybe a nice diffuse lighting kit will be my next project after the in-car iPod mounting and the MAME machine.

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Honda Update

Well, it seems that someone from Honda called me to answer some questions I had about the Honda Music Link iPod Adapter. Instead of answering my questions, they got about a 10 minute earful regarding how bad the product is. Supposedly it all, plus the URL of my website, has been logged as a complaint. We’ll see what happens…

Maybe next I’ll address a letter to someone a bit higher up at Honda.

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iPod + Civic Brainstorming

Some ideas…

– Find a way to safely / easily / reversibly remove the door on the aux audio connector (probably pin + spring friction fit) and use a right angle connector.

– Trace pinout on cable between Nav unit and Music Link adapter box.

– Identify pins used for power. Likely pins 9 and 10 of connector E ‘BLU (SAT ECU BUS (+))’ and ‘PNK (SAT ECU BUS (-))’. May also be pins 1 and 11, ‘BLU (+B GA-NET)’ and ‘BLK (GA-NET GND)’.

– Adapt one half of 08A31-0F1-000 (BUS HARN 2PORT) to provide power to iPod (hopefully is +12v, otherwise cancel idea) and use other half to Honda Music Link. Probably wire-wrap / solder two pins in connector and heat shrink for insulation. Harnesses are cheap and readily available.

– Mount Belkin TuneDok in left side of storage area in front of gear selector. Use threaded sleeve from center of cupholder cut out and braced with large (trimmed?) washer. Bolt through bottom of stoarge area.

– Buy Belkin Auto Kit (Black) from eBay to acquire dock connector cable.

– Small PCB in project box holding 1MΩ resistor (to emulate Belkin Auto Kit and pause on power off). Probably will also patch audio from dock cable to 3.5mm plug and power from wires leading from BUS HARN 2PORT to dock cable.

– Appears to be space in console in front of gear select to mount small project box. There is a medium sized structural tube to which it could be cable tied (with padding, similar to how Music Link box is mounted).

– RF chokes on all audio lines inside of project box, just to be sure.

End result should be all-black mounting hardware. No changes to any factory wiring. Audio fed through factory connector, power pulled from the same place as iPod charging power is currently acquired. Power to iPod should be nice, clean power, filtered by whatever filters the power in the head unit making for no noise.

Before doing all that, I need to take my vehicle in and get the resonating sound I’ve been hearing when the engine is running at 1400-1500 RPM checked out. I think this is a common problem. I also need to get my iPod taken care of at some point, because I think the disk in it may be dying.

Okay, end of rambling.

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iPod Stuff

Gur. I’m getting tired of the whole Honda / iPod thing. I just want the damn thing to work.

Here’s my current, and hopefully simple, idea. I mount an iPod holder in the console to hold the iPod. Then I figure out how to pull power from the Satellite / CD Changer / Whatever connector in the back of the stereo and do so. I have a spare Y cable for this connector, so I can tap power off of there. I then use one of these (or maybe these, if I am feeling cheap) to shove audio into the 3.5mm jack provided right on the console. Done right, it could be wired fairly transparently and completely non-invasively in the car (except for the mounting holes for the dock, which would be in a rather hidden location anyway).

The power would be pulled from the nicely filtered source on the back of the head unit, the audio would be fed in via ‘normal’ means without any special wiring / cabling / splicing, and the iPod would be mounted in an accessible location.

I’ll look more into making this work tomorrow, but I think it’s possible.

I’m also thinking of just buying a $20 Belkin Auto Kit from eBay in black so I can have one that matches the dock and is known to be well soldered and wee. Then I can just build a tiny PCB to make all the connections I want, mount that up in the console, and call it a day. Hrm. I really do think this is the best way to go… And if I plan it right, it’ll involve pulling apart the dash twice. Once to check / measure things, and another to do the install. I’ll likely go this route.

Tomorrow I’ll probably order the parts.

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Noise Filter

Do any of you know where I can get plans or a schematic for a noise filter to put on a 12v DC car power source? I’m now looking into making my own iPod hookup, but the normal Radio Shack filter is physically too large for my purposes.

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Contacting Apple re: Honda Music Link

Well, let’s see what this gets me. The people it’s addressed to are Jaime Schopflin and Tom Neumayr, Apple’s PR contacts for ‘iPod’ and ‘Manager, iTunes & iPod’, respectively.

From: "Steve Vigneau"
Subject: Honda Music Link iPod Adapter Review
Date: Mon, January 9, 2006 9:20 am
To: jaimes@apple.com,tneumayr@apple.com

Hello,

I have recently come into possession of one of the Honda Music Link iPod
Adapters which was announced in an Apple press release on September 7th,
2005 (http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2005/sep/07ipod_auto.html).

Due to my extreme dissatisfaction with this product I have been
maintaining an ongoing log / review of my experiences with it at the
following URL:

http://www.nuxx.net/hondamusiclink.html

Due to the apparent disparity between Apple's hopeful-sounding
announcement with regards to this product and my actual experiences with
it I wanted to make Apple aware of this information. I am also interested
in any comments which you may have with regards to my experiences with the
product.

Thank you,

Steve Vigneau
admin@nuxx.net

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