{"id":19025,"date":"2020-07-25T10:03:06","date_gmt":"2020-07-25T14:03:06","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/nuxx.net\/blog\/?p=19025"},"modified":"2020-07-25T11:09:38","modified_gmt":"2020-07-25T15:09:38","slug":"salsa-timberjack-fixing-a-mistake","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/nuxx.net\/blog\/2020\/07\/25\/salsa-timberjack-fixing-a-mistake\/","title":{"rendered":"Salsa Timberjack: Fixing a Mistake"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"768\" src=\"https:\/\/nuxx.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/07\/IMG_20200724_202155-1024x768.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-19045\" srcset=\"https:\/\/nuxx.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/07\/IMG_20200724_202155-1024x768.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/nuxx.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/07\/IMG_20200724_202155-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/nuxx.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/07\/IMG_20200724_202155-768x576.jpg 768w, https:\/\/nuxx.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/07\/IMG_20200724_202155-1536x1152.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/nuxx.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/07\/IMG_20200724_202155-2048x1536.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>After building up the <a href=\"https:\/\/nuxx.net\/blog\/2020\/05\/31\/all-city-electric-queen-rugged-xc-trail-hard-trail-bike\/\">All-City Electric Queen<\/a> and riding it a handful of times, it just didn&#8217;t feel&#8230; right. Standing and handling the bike was fine, but seated pedaling &#8212; especially when climbing or just after sitting back down &#8212; felt quite off. Turns out the problem was the <a href=\"https:\/\/nuxx.net\/blog\/2020\/06\/04\/seat-tube-angle-makes-a-big-difference\/\">71\u00b0 seat tube angle on the frame coupled with my shorter femurs; I simply can&#8217;t get the saddle far enough forward on one of these frames.<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Unfortunately, the only good solution was to get a different frame. The Salsa Timberjack was my original choice for this hard tail trail bike build, but I got excited by the idea of a steel bike, loved the paint on the Electric Queen, and glossed over the seat tube angle. By the time I realized I needed a new frame the <a href=\"https:\/\/salsacycles.com\/bikes\/timberjack\/2019_timberjack_frame\">stand-alone black frames<\/a> were no longer available. Fortunately, over at the excellent <a href=\"http:\/\/www.sportsrackmqt.com\/welcome\">Sports Rack Marquette<\/a>, Evan had some new frames from complete bikes available, and I was able to get a beautiful gloss teal frame from a <a href=\"https:\/\/salsacycles.com\/bikes\/timberjack\/2019_timberjack_deore_27.5\">2019 Timberjack Deore 27.5+<\/a> from them.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Besides matching my wants geometry-wise, the frame is a great choice because all parts except for the headset swapped over, and the frame came with a headset. While the stock <a href=\"https:\/\/blue.canecreek.com\/products\/headsets\/ten\">Cane Creek 10<\/a> is a lower end part, which lacks sealing on the top bearing cover and has a plastic compression rings and crown races and black oxide bearings, it works and will be fine for a while. The fork was already fitted with a higher end matching crown race, and I have a <a href=\"https:\/\/canecreek.com\/product\/hellbender-70\/\">Cane Creek Hellbender 70<\/a> headset ready swap in once the bearings and compression ring start to go.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>One downside to the Timberjack vs. Electric Queen is that I&#8217;ll no longer have a rigid fork for the bike, but if I really want one the <a href=\"https:\/\/salsacycles.com\/components\/category\/forks\/firestarter_110_deluxe_fork\">Firestarter 110 Deluxe<\/a> is a perfect match. The top tube on this bike is also a little bit tall, as it&#8217;s also designed for bikepacking and fitting a top tube bag, but it&#8217;s plenty comfortable to ride and I love all the bottle cage options.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>To round out the build and get the colors nice I ordered some new fork decals from <a href=\"https:\/\/www.slikgraphics.com\/\">Slik Graphics<\/a>. Unfortunately, I screwed up and ordered the decals for the Factory-series forks, so while it looks good, I technically have the wrong upper logo on the fork lowers. I&#8217;ve since ordered another set with the proper Performance decals for the upper, and am waiting for them to arrive. Since this order was placed <a href=\"https:\/\/www.change.org\/p\/fox-factory-ltd-help-slik-graphics-offer-fox-decals\">Slik became involved in a dispute with Fox<\/a>, so I&#8217;m hoping to receive the updated decals. Even if they don&#8217;t arrive, at least the colors are right on the fork. I could even remove the upper decals and have it still look good.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>When finishing up the build I ran into a significant problem with the brakes: squealing and vibration. Due to part availability I&#8217;d purchased the calipers and levers as a non-retail \/ meant-for-complete-bikes \/ likely grey market set from a well-known eBay seller, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ebay.com\/usr\/ronde-cycling\">ronde-cycling<\/a>. I was never able to get them <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=iUV2Eo9ERSk\">bedded in properly<\/a>, and after a few rides they began squealing horridly and shuddering under hard braking. This seller offers different pads options with the brakes, and I began to suspect they handle the pads with each brake set sale, did so poorly, and contaminated the pads before they got to me.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I tried the normal recommendations of cleaning everything, sanding the pads and rotors, and even baking the pads in the oven, but on each bed-in procedure they&#8217;d begin squealing again. Resolution a set of new J04C pads and a bed-in and now the brakes are working great. At ~$50 for a new set of pads this really added to the cost of the brakes, but at least they are now working.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Final build, with water bottle cages, pedals, and computer came out to right around 27 pounds. And, it fits! Since building it I&#8217;ve put over 180 miles and nearly 16 hours on the bike, haven&#8217;t touched the geometry, and I&#8217;m really happy with the result. It&#8217;s exactly what I wanted; a high quality hard tail trail bike.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Full details below:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Frame:<\/strong> <a href=\"https:\/\/salsacycles.com\/bikes\/timberjack\/\">Salsa Timberjack<\/a> (Large, Teal, 2019)<br><strong>Fork:<\/strong> <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ridefox.com\/family.php?m=bike&amp;family=34\">Fox 34 Step-Cast<\/a> (Performance, FIT4 damper, Black Upper Tube Finish, 120mm, 51mm offset, 15QR)<br><strong>Fork Decals: <\/strong>Slik Graphics <a href=\"https:\/\/www.slikgraphics.com\/collections\/fork-decals-fox\/products\/fox-34-step-cast-factory-style-decal-kit-black-forks\">Fox 34 Step-Cast Factory Style Decal Kit<\/a> \/ <a href=\"https:\/\/www.slikgraphics.com\/shop\/forks\/fox-34-step-cast-performance-elite-decal-kit-black-forks\/\">Fox 34 Step Cast Performance Elite Decal Kit<\/a> (Color 1: Medium Grey, Color 2: Dark Grey, Finish: Matte)<br><strong>Headset:<\/strong> <a href=\"https:\/\/blue.canecreek.com\/products\/headsets\/ten\">Cane Creek 10<\/a> (Black, ZS44\/ZS56)<br><strong>Crankset:<\/strong> SRAM X1 1400 GXP<br><strong>Bottom Bracket:<\/strong> <a href=\"https:\/\/www.sram.com\/en\/sram\/models\/bb-gxp-a1\">SRAM GXP<\/a> (Black)<br><strong>Chainring:<\/strong> <a href=\"https:\/\/www.sram.com\/en\/sram\/models\/cr-xsnc-b1\">SRAM X-SYNC 2<\/a> (32t, steel, Direct Mount, 3mm \/ Boost)<br><strong>Derailleur:<\/strong> <a href=\"https:\/\/www.sram.com\/en\/sram\/models\/rd-gx-1-b1\">SRAM GX Eagle<\/a><br><strong>Shifter:<\/strong> <a href=\"https:\/\/www.sram.com\/en\/sram\/models\/sl-gx-1-a1\">SRAM GX Eagle<\/a><br><strong>Shift Cables \/ Housing:<\/strong> Shimano Bulk<br><strong>Cassette:<\/strong> <a href=\"https:\/\/www.sram.com\/en\/sram\/models\/cs-xg-1275-a1\">SRAM XG-1275<\/a><br><strong>Brakes:<\/strong> <a href=\"https:\/\/bike.shimano.com\/en-EU\/product\/component\/slx-m7100\/BR-M7100.html\">Shimano SLX M7100<\/a> (Levers: <a href=\"https:\/\/bike.shimano.com\/en-EU\/product\/component\/slx-m7100\/BL-M7100.html\">BL-M7100<\/a>, Calipers: <a href=\"https:\/\/bike.shimano.com\/en-EU\/product\/component\/slx-m7100\/BR-M7100.html\">BR-7100<\/a>)<br><strong>Brake Pads:<\/strong> Shimano J04C (Finned, Metal)<br><strong>Front Rotor:<\/strong> <a href=\"https:\/\/bike.shimano.com\/en-EU\/product\/component\/deorext-m8000\/SM-RT86.html\">SM-RT86<\/a>-L (203mm)<br><strong>Rear Rotor:<\/strong> <a href=\"https:\/\/bike.shimano.com\/en-EU\/product\/component\/deorext-m8000\/SM-RT86.html\">SM-RT86<\/a>-M (180mm)<br><strong>Front Brake Adapter:<\/strong> SM-MA-F203P\/P (160mm Post to 203mm Post)<br><strong>Rear Brake Adapter:<\/strong> Shimano SM-MA-R180P\/S (IS to 180mm Post)<br><strong>Stem:<\/strong> <a href=\"https:\/\/salsacycles.com\/components\/category\/stems\/guide_stem\">Salsa Guide<\/a> (+6\u00b0, 60mm)<br><strong>Bar:<\/strong> <a href=\"https:\/\/salsacycles.com\/components\/category\/mountain_handlebars\/salt_flat\">Salsa Salt Flat<\/a> (750mm)<br><strong>Wheels:<\/strong> <a href=\"https:\/\/industrynine.com\/wheels\/mountain\/trail-s\/\">Industry Nine Trail S Hydra 28H<\/a> (29&#8243;)\u2020<br><strong>Tires:<\/strong> <a href=\"https:\/\/www.maxxis.com\/catalog\/tire-559-140-rekon\">Maxxis Rekon<\/a> (29 x 2.4&#8243;, 3C\/EXO\/TR)<br><strong>Seatpost:<\/strong> <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ridefox.com\/fox17\/help.php?m=bike&amp;id=687\">Fox Transfer Performance Elite<\/a> (2020, Black, 125mm, 30.9mm, Internal)<br><strong>Dropper Lever:<\/strong> <a href=\"https:\/\/www.wolftoothcomponents.com\/collections\/components\/products\/remote-light-action\">Wolf Tooth ReMote Light Action<\/a> (Black, 22.2mm Clamp)<br><strong>Seatpost Collar:<\/strong> <a href=\"https:\/\/salsacycles.com\/components\/category\/collars\/lip_lock\">Salsa Lip-Lock<\/a> (Black, 35.0 mm)<br><strong>Saddle:<\/strong> <a href=\"https:\/\/www.specialized.com\/us\/en\/power-expert\/p\/155978\">Specialized Power Expert<\/a> (143mm)<br><strong>Pedals:<\/strong> <a href=\"https:\/\/www.crankbrothers.com\/products\/eggbeater-3\">Crank Brothers Eggbeater 3<\/a> (Green, from <a href=\"https:\/\/nuxx.net\/blog\/2015\/10\/24\/new-fat-bike-2016-salsa-blackborow\/\">Blackborow<\/a>)<br><strong>Grips:<\/strong> <a href=\"https:\/\/esigrips.com\/mtb-grips\/extra-chunky-grips\">ESI Extra Chunky<\/a> (Black)<br><strong>Bottle Cages:<\/strong> <a href=\"https:\/\/www.specialized.com\/au\/en\/zee-cage-ii--left\/p\/171461\">Specialized Zee Cage II<\/a> (Black Gloss, 1x Left, 2x Right)<br><strong>Computer:<\/strong> <a href=\"https:\/\/buy.garmin.com\/en-US\/US\/p\/621224\">Garmin Edge 530<\/a>, Garmin Speed and Cadence Sensors (v1), <a href=\"https:\/\/smile.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/B07N1QVGNM\/\">Best Tek Garmin Stem Mount<\/a><br><strong>Bell:<\/strong> <a href=\"https:\/\/www.mirrycle.com\/item\/original-incredibell\/\">Mirracycle Original Incredibell<\/a> (Black)<br><strong>Derailleur Hanger:<\/strong> QBP FS1373<br><strong>Frame Protection Tape:<\/strong> <a href=\"https:\/\/www.3m.com\/3M\/en_US\/company-us\/all-3m-products\/~\/Scotch-Rubber-Mastic-Tape-2228\/?N=5002385+3294317059&amp;rt=rud\">3M 2228<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.3m.com\/3M\/en_US\/company-us\/all-3m-products\/~\/Scotch-Rubber-Mastic-Tape-2228\/?N=5002385+3294317059&amp;rt=rud\">McMaster-Carr UHMW PE<\/a><br><strong>Cable Rattle Prevention: <\/strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.frostking.com\/products\/weatherstripping\/epdm-rubber-weatherseal-10-year-guarantee\">Frost King EPDM Weatherseal<\/a> (V25A, slipped over dropper housing)<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>After building up the All-City Electric Queen and riding it a handful of times, it just didn&#8217;t feel&#8230; right. 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