{"id":18165,"date":"2015-05-22T13:48:35","date_gmt":"2015-05-22T17:48:35","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/nuxx.net\/blog\/?p=18165"},"modified":"2015-05-22T13:48:35","modified_gmt":"2015-05-22T17:48:35","slug":"manistee-cadillac-ludington-area-fat-bike-suggestions","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/nuxx.net\/blog\/2015\/05\/22\/manistee-cadillac-ludington-area-fat-bike-suggestions\/","title":{"rendered":"Manistee \/ Cadillac \/ Ludington Area Fat Bike Suggestions"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone\" title=\"Screenshot from YouTube of Ken Blakey-Shell and friends riding fat bikes on the Little O trail.\" src=\"https:\/\/nuxx.net\/gallery\/d\/108816-2\/little_o_kbs.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"640\" height=\"385\" \/><\/p>\n<p>A few months back I\u00a0happened across <a href=\"http:\/\/fat-bike.com\/2013\/08\/fat-video-friday-%E2%99%A6-manistee\/\">this page on fat-bike.com<\/a>\u00a0about Ken Blakey-Shell and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.quiringcycles.net\/\">Scott Quiring<\/a> riding part of the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.fs.usda.gov\/recarea\/hmnf\/\/recarea\/?recid=18926&amp;actid=93\">Little O ATV Trail<\/a>\u00a0on fat bikes and wanted to try it myself (<a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=EA8iMICqd0I\">Video 1<\/a>\u00a0\u00b7 <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=Abknal5Mygw\">Video 2<\/a>). A\u00a0mutual friend\u00a0put me in touch with Ken, and within a few days I&#8217;d received a boatload of excellent information about where to ride in the area. Ken\u00a0encouraged me to share the info, so I&#8217;m posting it here for public consumption. While I haven&#8217;t ridden any of these trails yet myself, the routes sound excellent and something I hope to do in mid-June.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;m really excited about riding these. Back-country rides like this are something I love, and new trails to explore sound wonderful.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p>Here are the suggested routes as Ken emailed them to me.\u00a0I&#8217;ve edited these slightly add links, GPX copies of routes, etc, but it&#8217;s otherwise his words:<\/p>\n<h2>Little O ORV Trail \/ North Country Trail<\/h2>\n<p>The <a href=\"http:\/\/www.fs.usda.gov\/recarea\/hmnf\/\/recarea\/?recid=18926&amp;actid=93\">Little O ORV Trail<\/a> (<a href=\"http:\/\/www.michigandnr.com\/publications\/pdfs\/ForestsLandWater\/ORV\/Maps-Trail\/little_o_trail.pdf\">PDF Map<\/a>) \/ <a href=\"https:\/\/northcountrytrail.org\/\">North Country Trail (NCT)<\/a> figure 8 just north of M10 is the easiest and least technical. It is 50% NCT and 50% moto trail with a around half of the moto trail being super good and the other half of it being only ok. The moto trails are fairly sandy and are best on a 4&#8243; tire fat bike setup although 29+ and 26&#215;5&#8243; work OK too. Regular MTB is a no go. The moto trails are wider (4 wheelers use them too) with lots of banked corners and whoops. There are some extended downhills that are super fun. The other half of the ride is on NCT which is awesome in its own right. There is some significant climbs on this loop but it is all pretty gradual and none of the downhills are very sketchy. I normally start and finish on the northern end of the 8 but you could just as easily start at <a href=\"http:\/\/www.fs.usda.gov\/recarea\/hmnf\/\/recarea\/?recid=18884&amp;actid=31\">Timber Creek<\/a> on M10 and ride NCT a little ways to connect up with the figure 8 loop.<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>This is the shortest route cutting out part of the upper 8. If pressed for time, fitness&#8230; this gets all the best parts: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.strava.com\/activities\/186322126\">Strava<\/a>\u00a0\u00b7 <a href=\"\/files\/gps\/from_strava\/186322126.gpx\">GPX<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Strava link for just the figure 8: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.strava.com\/activities\/64366246\">Strava<\/a> \u00b7 <a href=\"\/files\/gps\/from_strava\/64366246.gpx\">GPX<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Strava link for the figure 8 plus some extra NCT starting and finishing just north of the Sable River: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.strava.com\/activities\/159745697\">Strava<\/a> \u00b7 <a href=\"\/files\/gps\/from_strava\/159745697.gpx\">GPX<\/a><\/li>\n<li>You can also start from the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.fs.usda.gov\/recarea\/hmnf\/\/recarea\/?recid=18692&amp;actid=91\">NCT Freesoil Trailhead<\/a> on 8 Mile Rd but that makes for a fairly long ride: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.strava.com\/activities\/132037113\">Strava<\/a> \u00b7 <a href=\"\/files\/gps\/from_strava\/132037113.gpx\">GPX<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h2>North and South Caberfae Loop<\/h2>\n<p>The other two routes I recommend are between <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Manistee,_Michigan\">Manistee<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Cadillac,_Michigan\">Cadillac<\/a>. One route is north of M55 and the other is south of M55 and both start at the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.fs.usda.gov\/recarea\/hmnf\/null\/recarea\/?recid=49930&amp;actid=92\">Caberfae Snowmobile Trailhead<\/a>. Both routes are a combo of moto trail and two tracks. The moto trail is a lot more technical than anything I have seen for MTB trail in the LP \u00a0&#8211; I often describe them as the most non-IMBA approved trails in the world. They go straight up and down hills, have tons of water erosion caused trenching, exposed roots and rocks and are really challenging on both the up hills and down hills. There are tons and tons of whoops and bermed corners. Unlike the Little O which is a wider 2 track type trail, these trails are tight singletrack. Quiring and I find these trails to be the most fun of any trails we have ridden in the state but you have to like a challenge to fall in that camp. 29+ is the ideal setup but 4 or 5&#8243; fat bikes work great too. You may be able to ride a regular MTB but it would be tough. You can combine the two loops if you want into a monster ride but you need to be in top shape (both upper body as well as normal riding shape) because you are going to get worked. Both loops are equally good so it is a coin toss which to do. I normally break people in on the north loop first because you start out on one of the best downhills around as soon as you start riding the ORV trail.<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>North Caberfae Loop: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.strava.com\/activities\/164421705\">Strava<\/a> \u00b7 <a href=\"\/files\/gps\/from_strava\/164421705.gpx\">GPX<\/a><\/li>\n<li>South Caberfae Loop: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.strava.com\/activities\/187988752\">Strava<\/a>\u00a0\u00b7 <a href=\"\/files\/gps\/from_strava\/187988752.gpx\">GPX<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<hr \/>\n<h2>Maps<\/h2>\n<p>Here&#8217;s some heavily annotated map snippets\u00a0that Ken has graciously provided. The base\u00a0image for these comes from the National Geographic&#8217;s\u00a0Trails Illustrated maps of the Manistee National Forest: <a href=\"http:\/\/mshop.nationalgeographic.com\/1\/1\/2700-758-manistee-national-forest-north-trail-map.html\">758 Manisteee National Forest, North Trail Map<\/a>\u00a0and <a href=\"http:\/\/mshop.nationalgeographic.com\/1\/1\/2701-759-manistee-national-forest-south-trail-map.html\">759 Manistee National Forest, South Trail Map<\/a>. I strongly suggest buying the base maps, as the additional context is\u00a0necessary to find your way to the trails and for understanding the area. These maps appear to be a great compilation of road, ORV trail, and North Country Trail maps all in one. No other map that I&#8217;ve seen as clearly shows\u00a0how they all overlay; something which is incredibly useful for hikers and mountain bikers alike:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/nuxx.net\/pdf\/Little%20O%20and%20NCT%20Figure%208.pdf\">Little O \/ NCT Loop Notes<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/nuxx.net\/pdf\/Caberfae%20North%20-%20suggested%20route.pdf\">Caberfae Moto Trails &#8211; Suggested Route<\/a> (North Caberfae Loop)<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/nuxx.net\/pdf\/Trail%20Notes%20from%20Jul%2010,%202013.pdf\">Notes From 7\/10\/2013 Ride with Scotty Q<\/a>\u00a0(South Caberfae Loop)<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>A few months back I\u00a0happened across this page on fat-bike.com\u00a0about Ken Blakey-Shell and Scott Quiring riding part of the Little O ATV Trail\u00a0on fat bikes&#8230;<\/p>\n<div class=\"more-link-wrapper\"><a class=\"more-link\" href=\"https:\/\/nuxx.net\/blog\/2015\/05\/22\/manistee-cadillac-ludington-area-fat-bike-suggestions\/\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\">Manistee \/ Cadillac \/ Ludington Area Fat Bike Suggestions<\/span><\/a><\/div>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[10,29,19],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-18165","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-cycling","category-outdoors","category-travel","entry"],"amp_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/nuxx.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/18165","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/nuxx.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/nuxx.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/nuxx.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/nuxx.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=18165"}],"version-history":[{"count":15,"href":"https:\/\/nuxx.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/18165\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":18194,"href":"https:\/\/nuxx.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/18165\/revisions\/18194"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/nuxx.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=18165"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/nuxx.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=18165"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/nuxx.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=18165"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}